Ian Esplen: Schultz and Lu, One Last Time Schultz and Lu, One Last Time

Ian Esplen: Schultz and Lu, One Last Time
Schultz and Lu, One Last Time
- IanEsplen

It should be an interesting 48 hours.

Again, I feel this whole blog centers on how WE need to make it happen. We don't need Luongo...YOU need to cut him loose. Kulikov, Versteeg, any crazy notion that Huberdeau is in the mix is ridiculous. Settle down over there.

Again, I feel this whole blog centers on how WE need to make it happen. We don't need Luongo...YOU need to cut him loose. Kulikov, Versteeg, any crazy notion that Huberdeau is in the mix is ridiculous. Settle down over there.
- PanthersGoal

Don't kid yourself, you need Luongo, Markstrom's not a sure thing and being mentored for a couple years under Luongo certainly won't hurt his career any (see Cory Schneider). You also need to once again get over the floor and he's signed at a reasonable caphit with a declining actual dollars once his time is up helping your budget. Not to mention you could part with Versteeg, one decent prospect and still have a plethora available to step in (but I agree, Huberdeau is a non-starter).

Most "insiders" are have good connections into teams -- GMs, etc. Their connections to agents are not as strong Shultz, Wade Arnott and Donny Meehan are the only ones who know what he is thinking. I doubt that they are taking calls from Dreger, etc

Don't kid yourself, you need Luongo, Markstrom's not a sure thing and being mentored for a couple years under Luongo certainly won't hurt his career any (see Cory Schneider). You also need to once again get over the floor and he's signed at a reasonable caphit with a declining actual dollars once his time is up helping your budget. Not to mention you could part with Versteeg, one decent prospect and still have a plethora available to step in (but I agree, Huberdeau is a non-starter).
- DariusKnight

Florida does not have to win now, they are building something good with all their prospects. Why not ride Jose one more year? They are not ready to win the cup, so they shouldn't take on a long term contract at this point. Cap floor is not an issue as I am sure that will drop dramatically after the new CBA.

Plus, they can just go get Tim Thomas and not pay him anything to hit the floor.

Again, I feel this whole blog centers on how WE need to make it happen. We don't need Luongo...YOU need to cut him loose. Kulikov, Versteeg, any crazy notion that Huberdeau is in the mix is ridiculous. Settle down over there.
- PanthersGoal

Huberdeau wasn't mentioned once in the blog.

Again, I feel this whole blog centers on how WE need to make it happen. We don't need Luongo...YOU need to cut him loose. Kulikov, Versteeg, any crazy notion that Huberdeau is in the mix is ridiculous. Settle down over there.
- PanthersGoal

We get it, you don't like Lu .Fact is he is better and will be better than anyone that would go there in the next 6 years.

What do you guys think of Luongo for Nick Bjugstad and a mid-to-late-round pick? Florida also has Huberdeau and Grimaldi as centers as far as prospects go, so Bjugstad could be dealt. While Bjugstad wouldn't be the 'Nucks 2nd line center right away, I think he could develop into that position sooner rather than later. Just an idea, and as someone who isn't that really involved with either team, I may be way off base here.

Again, I feel this whole blog centers on how WE need to make it happen. We don't need Luongo...YOU need to cut him loose. Kulikov, Versteeg, any crazy notion that Huberdeau is in the mix is ridiculous. Settle down over there.
- PanthersGoal

All I want is Bjugstad. Straight up one for one.

What do you guys think of Luongo for Nick Bjugstad and a mid-to-late-round pick? Florida also has Huberdeau and Grimaldi as centers as far as prospects go, so Bjugstad could be dealt. While Bjugstad wouldn't be the 'Nucks 2nd line center right away, I think he could develop into that position sooner rather than later. Just an idea, and as someone who isn't that really involved with either team, I may be way off base here.
- MontrealTheTime

I'd be ecstatic.

What do you guys think of Luongo for Nick Bjugstad and a mid-to-late-round pick? Florida also has Huberdeau and Grimaldi as centers as far as prospects go, so Bjugstad could be dealt. While Bjugstad wouldn't be the 'Nucks 2nd line center right away, I think he could develop into that position sooner rather than later. Just an idea, and as someone who isn't that really involved with either team, I may be way off base here.
- MontrealTheTime

I would love Bjugstad

All I want is Bjugstad. Straight up one for one.
- Boinker

+1

Strickland just said it's down to the Oilers and Sens.....what a douche. Grows up a fan of the team than all of a sudden chooses a rival.

+1
- VANTEL

He'd solidify our future forward core. Bjugstad, Jensen, Gaunce, Schroeder and Kassian.

Don't kid yourself, you need Luongo, Markstrom's not a sure thing and being mentored for a couple years under Luongo certainly won't hurt his career any (see Cory Schneider). You also need to once again get over the floor and he's signed at a reasonable caphit with a declining actual dollars once his time is up helping your budget. Not to mention you could part with Versteeg, one decent prospect and still have a plethora available to step in (but I agree, Huberdeau is a non-starter).
- DariusKnight

Markstrom can be mentored by Theodore. And, we can get to the cap floor in a variety of wways without bailing you out. I like Luongo, I just don't think we need him very badly. I'm hoping Dale feels the same way. If he's available to us in a "basic steal" of course. I don't think Versteeg goes your way, he was a huge part of the team and a Tallon favorite. I could understand you wanting him, again.."wanting" and "getting"..two different issues. I do feel you WILL get Jason Garrison though. A late bloomer wanting 5 mil a year? I liked him, but I'd spend my 5 mil elsewhere besides a "one year wonder". Good luck though.

Again, I feel this whole blog centers on how WE need to make it happen. We don't need Luongo...YOU need to cut him loose. Kulikov, Versteeg, any crazy notion that Huberdeau is in the mix is ridiculous. Settle down over there.
- PanthersGoal

Don't worry Canuck fans have it all figured out for you. These really should be handling both sides of the negotiations.

All I want is Bjugstad. Straight up one for one.
- Boinker

I'm hoping "no".

Don't worry Canuck fans have it all figured out for you. These really should be handling both sides of the negotiations.
- Canada Cup

Exactly how it feels.

Strickland just said it's down to the Oilers and Sens.....what a douche. Grows up a fan of the team than all of a sudden chooses a rival.
- Boinker

Markstrom can be mentored by Theodore. And, we can get to the cap floor in a variety of wways without bailing you out. I like Luongo, I just don't think we need him very badly. I'm hoping Dale feels the same way. If he's available to us in a "basic steal" of course. I don't think Versteeg goes your way, he was a huge part of the team and a Tallon favorite. I could understand you wanting him, again.."wanting" and "getting"..two different issues. I do feel you WILL get Jason Garrison though. A late bloomer wanting 5 mil a year? I liked him, but I'd spend my 5 mil elsewhere besides a "one year wonder". Good luck though.
- PanthersGoal

Markstom is completely unproven. Luongo gives the Panthers a great shot at the playoffs again. He has the ability to win games all by himself.

You know.. I get a kick out of Canuck chuckleheads like Ian who think Coffey and Gretz called the guy to talk about the glory years to this kid because you are too damn ignorant to maybe think that they were talking about the RICH HISTORY this team has overall through it's whole existence, and not just a 7 year stretch. And the type of organization this team has and everything tied around that. Sorry, I understand you might not see this because the Canucks don't have a sniff when it comes to this. That's what happens when your team has won jack poop and will continue to do so. You guys had your time in the sun and you blew it, twice.

Maybe instead of bashing the Oilers organization and thinking that no players want to come to Edmonton anymore, you should get some knowledge and brainpower and know what the ^%$# you are talking about. I know, I know.. it's hard, because most Vancouver fans have become like Leaf fans. Think every player wants to go to your team even though you've won jack crap. When was your last cup win again? Oh wait, you don't have one, that's right. At least Leaf fans can say their club HAS a history and tradition behind them being an original 6 team and such. You guys have NOTHING. And in trading away Luongo its only going to get WORSE.

If you still think players have no interest in coming to Edmonton, maybe you should take a read at this link. It's likely a player agent knows more than you EVER WILL.

http://oilers.nhl.com/clu...460&navid=DL%7CEDM%7Chome

Regardless of whether Justin comes to Edmonton or not isn't the point. Personally, how a kid with zero NHL games to his name is controlling this situation is rather disgraceful in my mind. Reminds me of Eric Lindros all over again, hes just not the first overall pick. I don't know if I'd want that type of an attitude in my team's lockerroom and what will the viewpoints on the rest of the players on whatever team that gets him be. Spoiled, rotten, little brat would be my thoughts.

But this constant drivel about players not wanting to come to Edmonton anymore needs to stop because clearly as the link I provided above shows, it's not true anymore.. and nor should it be. There are no other teams in the Western Conference that can boast a young forward group like the Oil have with Ebs, Hall, RNH, and Yaks. I'll take those four over the Sedin Sisters, whine and cry Burrows and dirty Kesler any day. The only team out east to rival this would be Philly and Pittsburgh.

Flap yer lips all you want, you'll be eating crow when this Oilers team is back on top again in another year or two. And oh, btw, if you do your research, we tend NOT TO blow opportunities when we finish first overall. Just sayin.

Florida does not have to win now, they are building something good with all their prospects. Why not ride Jose one more year? They are not ready to win the cup, so they shouldn't take on a long term contract at this point. Cap floor is not an issue as I am sure that will drop dramatically after the new CBA.

Plus, they can just go get Tim Thomas and not pay him anything to hit the floor.
- jsam7

Tim Thomas isn't going to play ever again, no team is going to want to take a flyer on someone who held his team hostage by deciding to take a year off putting the Bruins in a bad spot when they wanted to trade him because they wanted to put Rask in as #1. Not to mention his antics and his political views disturbed what was a really tight locker room in Boston, you really think Florida, which is a fairly young team is going to want that gong show?

Don't worry Canuck fans have it all figured out for you. These really should be handling both sides of the negotiations.
- Canada Cup

Have you ever seen a blog of any type (KHL included) where dopey Leaf fans don't believe it is all about them and dumping Komi Kadri and a 2 nd?


Pot meet kettle. There is no mention anywhere about a Leaf deal and you can bet your ass this blog will be overran by Leaf nuts.

- Canada Cup